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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.06 00:08:47 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Just FYI, people aren't "following the code" just because they happen to do something the CODE agrees with, just like not eating pork doesn't mean you are following Judaism. Incursion runners simply want to make more isk.
By the way, you realise that CODE indirectly supports botters, right?
This poster is a certified dumb.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:15:20 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Super Perforator wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:You gank soft targets, and primarily aim for tears to put on the blog. I don't know anyone that is ganking because they hope to get on the blog. Where did you get that ridiculous idea? As a group, that's the aim. The blog is designed to be a place to ridicule people that cry. If the goal of code was the removal of bots, then the blog wouldn't exist as bots don't cry. Super Perforator wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Botters will not be those targets. Bots don't cry and bots are generally not soft targets. Botters are generally not soft targets? Where did you get that ridiculous idea? According to the presentation from CCP at Fanfest 2014 the majority of mining botters that got banned were flying Ventures... softer than that it does not get. And to those stats there was no context. We know that a lot of bots were being banned very early on, so the stats may have been inflated with rookie characters in the 8 days prior to being able to use barges. The bulk of minerals pulled in by bots is from barges when a player get past the entry barrier of getting a bot past initial scrutiny. Come on, we all know what code is about even if you'll say anything to fight your side. Code wants tears. The fun in ganking comes from trolling the crying carebears, not from watching a bot reship them return to mining without saying a word. The whole "bot aspirant behavior" element of code is just made up to make it sound like you've got some reason to be doing it beyond what is effectively light griefing. If you honestly think you are fighting against bots, you're delusional.
You're never going to be as entertaining as dinsdale no matter how much tinfoil you wrap around your head. I suppose this won't stop you so please remember to leave breath holes.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:38:11 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Super Perforator wrote:No not just bots. Bot aspirants.
If you ever read the Code you will find out it is more about those aspiring to be like bots, than the bots themselves.
A bot, you can only destroy... a bot aspirant you can save. Bot aspirants do not exist. Nobody aspires to be a bot. You call people bot aspirant to give yourself an excuse to grief them. Realistically they are just players like anyone else who want to play the game. You need to assert your dominance by blowing them up and you do so. It's a story, that's all. There's nothing spectacular about ganking noobs even if you make up stories to go along with it. La Nariz wrote:You're never going to be as entertaining as dinsdale no matter how much tinfoil you wrap around your head. I suppose this won't stop you so please remember to leave breath holes. See! I knew you'd be in with the "tinfoil!" again. It's a fact that every non-bot miner you kill is going to have a positive impact on botters. That's just how the economy works. Less miners = more wealth for the remaining miners. So whatever way you look at it, code is beneficial to botters.
Let me guess I'm also a grandmaster puppet master who controls the nullsec cartels that control the tinfoil supply that you buy to wrap around your head to protect from evil mind control rays generated by the code people for nefarious pro-botting purposes?
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:45:31 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:It's actually no longer just CCP's definition. Wikipedia took up the torch and added an addendum to their definition to 'griefing' to make it clear that griefplay in EVE is different from other games. So, yes, there are things that happen in EVE that are considered griefing in most other games, but are not considered such here.
This is a hurdle that many vertically challenged simply cannot make it over. We need to implement steps!
We need to fund public schools better is more like it.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.06 16:00:11 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:It's actually no longer just CCP's definition. Wikipedia took up the torch and added an addendum to their definition to 'griefing' to make it clear that griefplay in EVE is different from other games. So, yes, there are things that happen in EVE that are considered griefing in most other games, but are not considered such here.
This is a hurdle that many vertically challenged simply cannot make it over. We need to implement steps! Oh Really? Wikipedia says it? That place that any idiot can edit states a new definition of what griefing - the act of causing grief - is? Thank god you told me! There was me using the actual definition.
They probably want to make sure you can find/understand it since coating yourself in that much tinfoil can restrict learning and critical thinking skills.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:25:33 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:I find it pretty doubtful that they're gonna flip on this issue any time soon. The debate among the players has been raging for years as it stands. You could say the same about input broadcasting, or highsec awoxing. At the end of the day, when CCP decides enough is enough and players are being upset by being griefed, they'll act. To be honest, if all of the players that get ganked and trolled in local by code reported it, I'm sure they'd turn round pretty quickly with some changes. The problem is that groups like code scare people into thinking they aren't allowed to, or that it's useless to, report it, that their grieifing is actively allowed.
Dumb da dumb dumb duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:22:44 -
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What a paradox the mindless highsec pubbies that sit there all day pveing like bots want to play their way but, don't want other people to be able to do the same.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:20:56 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:La Nariz wrote:What a paradox the mindless highs. pubbies that sit there all day pveing like bots want to play their way but, don't want other people to be able to do the same. Those backsystem null rats won't farm themselves. Get back to work!
I don't rat, that's what ~valued allies~ like our SMA friend here do.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:43:12 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:
Dude, not cool. Theyre feelings are being hurt. Thats worse than physical violence.
Are you being tortured? If so you need to call ripard teg right now so he can defend your space human rights.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.08 17:38:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:If 300 people try per day to kill people and all 300 of those succeed, it's pretty unsafe.
What is this garbage?
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.10 13:11:04 -
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Has anyone actually done anything or fought any battles against gankers yet? One thing all of these dumb "rebels" has in common is that they restrict their actions in their "resistance" to whining on the forums to CCP which has failed several times. Basically it amounts to them stating they're resisting then doing nothing at all and expecting new results every time.
When are you people going to understand that you actually have to do something to make any progress?
You have no excuse for inaction, ganking/piracy is the most nerfed play style/profession in the game and highsec pve is the most buffed activity in the game. You have every advantage yet you still lose.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.10 18:18:29 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:La Nariz wrote:Has anyone actually done anything or fought any battles against gankers yet? One thing all of these dumb "rebels" has in common is that they restrict their actions in their "resistance" to whining on the forums to CCP which has failed several times. Basically it amounts to them stating they're resisting then doing nothing at all and expecting new results every time.
When are you people going to understand that you actually have to do something to make any progress?
You have no excuse for inaction, ganking/piracy is the most nerfed play style/profession in the game and highsec pve is the most buffed activity in the game. You have every advantage yet you still lose. Every advantage as a miner or Crane pilot but not when it comes to freighter ganks. Once a bump happens there's no countering it and with enough gankers ready there's no countering the gank. I've heard these stupid suggestions like web your freighter to a halt, except if they've ever tried that they'd know it webs too slowly to actually work. Equally dumb I heard the suggestion to warp your freighter in the direction its bumped, using a spotter, ignoring that bumpers can just bump the freighter 15 degrees a different way if they see that happening. On the flip side if you have an alt with webs you suddenly have all the advantage. Its so black and white. 0% chance of being ganked or a 0% chance of escaping a gank. You either have webs and you're immune to risk, or you dont have webs and you might as well just logoff if someone bumps you. They need to nerf both
No you've had plenty of freighter piloting buffs for example the boomerang nerf and fitting slots buff. A freighter gank occurs after a series of bad choices by the freighter pilot here lets look at all the bad choices which culminate in a gank:
1. Being AFK and on autopilot (the worst choice),
2. Not involving friends or choosing to play solo in a multiplayer game (MMO),
3. Not checking the in-game map for kills or dotlan/zkill,
4. Filling your hold with more than your ship is worth (making yourself profitable to gank),
5. Fitting poorly,
6. Flying through known "hot" systems,
7. Not watchlisting the most well known gank FCs,
8. Not vetting your courier contracts,
9. Not reflecting on previous losses,
10. Being in sov warfare with GSF.
9 obvious reasons why ganks occur and easily fixed things. The best part of it is its a fraction of the :effort: to fix these versus what the ganker has to do to survey the a potential target in the first place.
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La Nariz
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Posted - 2015.01.10 18:42:10 -
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Velicitia wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Velicitia wrote:La Nariz wrote:Has anyone actually done anything or fought any battles against gankers yet? One thing all of these dumb "rebels" has in common is that they restrict their actions in their "resistance" to whining on the forums to CCP which has failed several times. Basically it amounts to them stating they're resisting then doing nothing at all and expecting new results every time.
I got successfully called a CODE spy (I'm not) for suggesting a more concentrated / coordinated resistance. Surprisingly Jenn stepped up and told the guy off (we'll see if I'm banned though). Jennifer En Marland? She is a good sort and not afraid to engage gankers using their own tactics against them, proof in point my gank alt got suicide ganked by her while bumping in Tolle a couple of years ago. Gankception  She's the one ... too bad she's one of the few pilots in AG who seem to want to do something that's not entirely dumb .. Hardest part the AG crowd has in front of them is breaking out of the lethargy (apathy?) that the community has. If someone could do that, there'd be a hell of a fight break out between AG and CODE (et. al.). TBH, I'd love to see the propaganda war that breaks out over it.
You can start like James 315 did, start doing something entertaining yourself and drum up interest until others join you.
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